Todd Tillinghast wrote:
[...]

I have used emacs for XML authoring, and it works great for DTDs. Less
so, IMO, with RELAX-NG and Schemas not at all. So I've had to give up
emacs for XML authoring and OSIS work.
[...]

I've been using oXygen for about six months now, and it works quite well
for my purposes. It is not for everyone. I like the fact that it is
multi-platform (Java-based). There's a time-limited trial version you 
can download. Check out the feature list:

http://www.oxygenxml.com/features/

I don't press the envelope of XML/XSLT like Todd does, but feature for 
feature, I think oXygen is a competative choice.

As far as I know, there is no good solution for doing OSIS authoring for
the non-technical person.
[...]

The latest version of oXygen has a XSLT debugger. Todd, I'd be
interested in your opinion of the debugger as compared to XML Spy.
[...]

oXygen does this, too, although I've not tried it out.

A satisfied customer. :-)

Blessings,

Kirk
--
Kirk E. Lowery, Ph.D.
Director, Westminster Hebrew Institute
Adjunct Professor of Old Testament
Westminster Theological Seminary, Philadelphia
--
cynicism, n.: the belief that trustworthiness
               must be first demonstrated before
               trust can be asked or given.

On 01-Jun-2004 Kirk Lowery wrote:[...][...][...]

On Unix you can use GPL'ed kxsldbg. Well, it is buggy, but I use it.
[...]

Just downloaded XMLSpy Home edition - for the princely sum of zero dollars -
i.e. its free.


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Tillinghast [mailto:todd(at)contentframeworks.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 4:07 PM
To: osis-user(at)whi.wts.edu
Subject: RE: [osis-user] OpenSource Editor for OSIS ?


If you are simply looking for a good XML editor for a technically oriented
person (read don't mind pointy brackets) and you don't have a philosophical
problem with commercial software both XML Spy and oXygen are $49(US) for a
version that includes a full XML editor.  

I tried the oXygen editor and it seems to work well (and should run on any
OS because it is Java based).  The advantage of oXygen is that it will
report all errors at one time, while XML Spy only does one at a time.

Personally, I use XML Spy and you will appreciate the XSLT debugger if you
write any XSLT transformations (the XSLT debugger is not included in the $49
version).

You may also find XML Spy useful for generating DTDs from the OSIS schema as
well as readable "documentation" views of the schema.

Todd
[...]
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http://www.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~piater/[...]


[...]

Check out XMLmind
www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor

XMLmind XML Editor is a validating XML editor featuring a word processor-like
view (more info).
XMLmind XML Editor
makes content authors more productive (more info),
excels at editing a mix of XML data and XML document (more info),
is highly extensible and its extensions are easy to deploy (more info).
This is java based so works on all platforms. You can edit in the 
formatted view. 

In works with schema or DTD.

Exposes an API for extensions. Already has interface in several languages 
and is interface is easily changed to other languages.

And the price is right. Free for standard version. 


Jim Albright
704 843-0582
Wycliffe Bible Translators

Jim,

Thanks for this, however I read the following, on the limitations of the 
Standard Edition, with some trepidation:
"In practice, this means that Standard Edition can be used to edit XML 
Schemas, XXE configuration files and XXE demos, but no other type of 
document conforming to an XML Schema." 
http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/stdedition.html

Does this mean that one cannot open and edit an OSIS document in 
standard edition?

Sorry if the question is stupid, I am trying to learn about XML but my 
main profession is teaching Hebrew Bible and I have no formal computer 
training!

Tim


Jim_Albright(at)wycliffe.org wrote:[...]
[...]

I saw someone edit an XML file conforming to DocBook schema in the 
formatted view. You have to tie the XML file to a view using CSS2 or CSS3. 
I think that is the limiting feature. 

Jim Albright
704 843-0582
Wycliffe Bible Translators






Tim Bulkeley <tim(at)carey.ac.nz>
06/02/2004 05:12 PM
Please respond to osis-user

 
        To:     osis-user(at)whi.wts.edu
        cc: 
        Subject:        Re: [osis-user] OpenSource Editor for OSIS ?


Jim,

Thanks for this, however I read the following, on the limitations of the 
Standard Edition, with some trepidation:
"In practice, this means that Standard Edition can be used to edit XML 
Schemas, XXE configuration files and XXE demos, but no other type of 
document conforming to an XML Schema." 
http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/stdedition.html

Does this mean that one cannot open and edit an OSIS document in 
standard edition?

Sorry if the question is stupid, I am trying to learn about XML but my 
main profession is teaching Hebrew Bible and I have no formal computer 
training!

Tim


Jim_Albright(at)wycliffe.org wrote:[...]
processor-like view (more info).[...]
languages [...]
[...]

I am posting this message in the hope that someone will benefit from it 
while trying to make a module for a project in sword.
Kate is part of kdebase package in KDE 3.2. The editor has the feature 
of an XML plugin:
This plugin supports writing XML files by listing allowed tags and more.

This plugin gives hints about what is allowed at a certain position in 
an XML file, according to the file's DTD. It will list possible 
elements, attributes, attribute values or entities, depending on the 
cursor position.

I managed to parse the ThML10.dtd with dtdparse (dtdparse.sf.net) which 
resulted in creation of a file: ThML10.dtd.xml. This file can be used 
with Kate.

I wonder whether it is possible to create osisCore.dtd.xml from 
osisCore2.0.1.xsd ?

This would really make it much easier for non thechies to write modules.

Benedict